Posted 01-03-2006 23:04:06
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have never fought a woman I didn't like...at least a bit. LOL
That may seem a strange statement because we are taught that "fighting" is something you do in anger or with foul purpose. But trust me, you'll understand what I mean the very first time you wrestle another woman. The experience of sharing the nervousness, excitement, physical challenge and adventure is really a "binding" experience for women and you are probably going to feel a real kinship with your opponent.
THAT is not the problem for most of us. The problem is actually fighting her. Because there is a bottom line and we might as well make it clear up front:
Combative women fight other combative women and we fight to win.
We do for fun because it IS fun, a lot of fun. We do it respectfully and safely and out of friendship because the experience makes us grow and we can't have that experience without our opponents. We care about our opponents' safety and feelings because, as opponents, they are our girlfriends -- not our enemies. And we make a bond with them because, as they help us grow and enjoy what we're doing, we do the same for them.
But, for that to happen, we have to try to beat them! And that's what this section is about.
When you do your first match, you're going to be nervous as hell. This will not change for a while. Not only is this a new experience and a potentially exciting one but it's one you've probably pictured in your mind for some time and you're just not sure how it will actually play out.
For women, one of the main issues is our programmed difficulty in actually "fighting" someone we're not angry with and our fear of provoking anger or bad feelings in another woman.
How "heavy" should I get? Where do I grab her? How rough is too rough? Will she be embarassed if I beat her? Will I if she beats me?
These are not minor issues. They are significant feelings for you personally and in the context of relationships among women and it's good that they are coming up. You're not rivals or enemies. Women are trained to be careful about the feelings of the other woman. After all, we are concerned about our feelings and how she treats us, no?
This is the first place where an important attitude shift must occur. Girlfriend, remember why you're there: you are getting together to compete physically and to explore what that means for each of you.
Wrestling is just fun, of course, but it can also be a deepening experience for you: you're using muscles in ways most women don't, you are struggling against a person who is about as strong as you. You're not "fighting back" against an attacker here -- you are attacking as well. The goal is no longer "survival" or getting away as in a physical attack from a man; the goal here is to beat her.
The important thing is to convince yourself of a simple fact: SHE wants you to try to beat her. Because if you don't, you are cheating her out of the full extent of self-exploration available during a match. How is she going to really test herself or experience these new emotions and feelings and physical stresses unless you're really posing a challenge to her.
In the real world, you are both going to feel some pressure possibly from your men or other observers. You may be encourage to engage in some kind of fantasy during the match which involves restraining yourselves and "not really fighting hard" or "letting her win", etc.
All of us have had these pressures and they must be rejected out of hand. That's not the say that you go in there to do anything to win. That's why we establish the rules we'll talk about later but, after you've set the rules, try as hard as you can within them.
Essentially, the rule for combative women is to be respectful and sensitive in setting up a match and after it and fighting within the rules with everything you have to beat her during the match.
While this may seem harsh or insensitive to her (or to you, if you lose), it is really the highest form of respect and support for her. You're giving her something that will let her achieve her goal and let her grow. And she is doing the same for you. You will NOT enjoy a match in which one of you isn't trying hard.
The pic on the right is worth a thousand words: Kritza and Melanie of DWW have just ended a really rough and tumble battle and here's THEIR reaction.
So...fight! Grab her wherever you can, struggle to get her down, struggle to stay on top of her, fight hard to hold her in place, fight like hell to get out of her holds. Push, pull, roll, grab and hold. Don't be afraid to hurt her. Unless you are much more experienced than she or much bigger, you won't.
If you think she's "tanking" (holding back), whisper to her to try harder. Just do it. If she's experienced, she'll know how much and what to do to really give you a fight without hurting you. If she's as experienced as you are, then there's no problem with trying.
In short, you should never be afraid to wrestle hard and wrestle to win. She will do the same and, win or lose, each of you will emerge feeling that you've had fun and that, in a small way perhaps, your world is a slightly different place.
That may seem a strange statement because we are taught that "fighting" is something you do in anger or with foul purpose. But trust me, you'll understand what I mean the very first time you wrestle another woman. The experience of sharing the nervousness, excitement, physical challenge and adventure is really a "binding" experience for women and you are probably going to feel a real kinship with your opponent.
THAT is not the problem for most of us. The problem is actually fighting her. Because there is a bottom line and we might as well make it clear up front:
Combative women fight other combative women and we fight to win.
We do for fun because it IS fun, a lot of fun. We do it respectfully and safely and out of friendship because the experience makes us grow and we can't have that experience without our opponents. We care about our opponents' safety and feelings because, as opponents, they are our girlfriends -- not our enemies. And we make a bond with them because, as they help us grow and enjoy what we're doing, we do the same for them.
But, for that to happen, we have to try to beat them! And that's what this section is about.
When you do your first match, you're going to be nervous as hell. This will not change for a while. Not only is this a new experience and a potentially exciting one but it's one you've probably pictured in your mind for some time and you're just not sure how it will actually play out.
For women, one of the main issues is our programmed difficulty in actually "fighting" someone we're not angry with and our fear of provoking anger or bad feelings in another woman.
How "heavy" should I get? Where do I grab her? How rough is too rough? Will she be embarassed if I beat her? Will I if she beats me?
These are not minor issues. They are significant feelings for you personally and in the context of relationships among women and it's good that they are coming up. You're not rivals or enemies. Women are trained to be careful about the feelings of the other woman. After all, we are concerned about our feelings and how she treats us, no?
This is the first place where an important attitude shift must occur. Girlfriend, remember why you're there: you are getting together to compete physically and to explore what that means for each of you.
Wrestling is just fun, of course, but it can also be a deepening experience for you: you're using muscles in ways most women don't, you are struggling against a person who is about as strong as you. You're not "fighting back" against an attacker here -- you are attacking as well. The goal is no longer "survival" or getting away as in a physical attack from a man; the goal here is to beat her.
The important thing is to convince yourself of a simple fact: SHE wants you to try to beat her. Because if you don't, you are cheating her out of the full extent of self-exploration available during a match. How is she going to really test herself or experience these new emotions and feelings and physical stresses unless you're really posing a challenge to her.
In the real world, you are both going to feel some pressure possibly from your men or other observers. You may be encourage to engage in some kind of fantasy during the match which involves restraining yourselves and "not really fighting hard" or "letting her win", etc.
All of us have had these pressures and they must be rejected out of hand. That's not the say that you go in there to do anything to win. That's why we establish the rules we'll talk about later but, after you've set the rules, try as hard as you can within them.
Essentially, the rule for combative women is to be respectful and sensitive in setting up a match and after it and fighting within the rules with everything you have to beat her during the match.
While this may seem harsh or insensitive to her (or to you, if you lose), it is really the highest form of respect and support for her. You're giving her something that will let her achieve her goal and let her grow. And she is doing the same for you. You will NOT enjoy a match in which one of you isn't trying hard.
The pic on the right is worth a thousand words: Kritza and Melanie of DWW have just ended a really rough and tumble battle and here's THEIR reaction.
So...fight! Grab her wherever you can, struggle to get her down, struggle to stay on top of her, fight hard to hold her in place, fight like hell to get out of her holds. Push, pull, roll, grab and hold. Don't be afraid to hurt her. Unless you are much more experienced than she or much bigger, you won't.
If you think she's "tanking" (holding back), whisper to her to try harder. Just do it. If she's experienced, she'll know how much and what to do to really give you a fight without hurting you. If she's as experienced as you are, then there's no problem with trying.
In short, you should never be afraid to wrestle hard and wrestle to win. She will do the same and, win or lose, each of you will emerge feeling that you've had fun and that, in a small way perhaps, your world is a slightly different place.
Posted 01-03-2006 22:57:44
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Catfighting is a sexist, derogatory term describing a brawl between two women. The very word conjures up an image of a frenzied, out of control fight with nails used as principle weapons and the fighters are mere animals.
But, like many terms of injustice, the term has been appropriated by combative women to mean something else entirely.
Read carefully now because a lot of people still don't "get" this: the "catfighting" we are referring to is "rules catfighting" and it has a long and treasured place in the history of female combative activities. It is really nothing more than a wrestling match in which the women are allowed to use certain pain-oriented techniques such as hair-pulling, breast grabbing, and slapping.
A rules catfight is PART of recreational wrestling.
While the term, in popular parlance, may mean a brawl and the rules in OUR world may be designed to simulate such an affair, rules catfights strictly prohibit punching, scratching, choking or biting. In short, they're rough but not dangerous and the rules are set up to prevent any injury of any kind.
Catfights are usually continued until a submission.
But, like many terms of injustice, the term has been appropriated by combative women to mean something else entirely.
Read carefully now because a lot of people still don't "get" this: the "catfighting" we are referring to is "rules catfighting" and it has a long and treasured place in the history of female combative activities. It is really nothing more than a wrestling match in which the women are allowed to use certain pain-oriented techniques such as hair-pulling, breast grabbing, and slapping.
A rules catfight is PART of recreational wrestling.
While the term, in popular parlance, may mean a brawl and the rules in OUR world may be designed to simulate such an affair, rules catfights strictly prohibit punching, scratching, choking or biting. In short, they're rough but not dangerous and the rules are set up to prevent any injury of any kind.
Catfights are usually continued until a submission.
Posted 01-03-2006 22:57:19
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An athletic competition in which two people attempt to render each other incapable of movement either by pinning the opponent's shoulders to the surface or forcing her to submit.
Wrestling is fighting without blows: grappling with rules.
You've done it. Maybe it was some horsing around with a girlfriend or your sister or cousin when you were younger. Or maybe you've actually been in a fight or two (it does happen).
Wrestling is a natural reaction to being restrained.
Contrary to what many people think, women have wrestled and fought for as long as recorded history and we take up some of that herstory in the appropriate section of this site. I encourage you to take a look -- just for some historical background and to get a feeling that you're "not alone".
And you're not. Today, thousands of women in this country wrestle each other in private for recreation. Hundreds wrestle in tournaments and public match situations. And the number, in both scenarios, is growing. In fact, wrestling networks and directories have hundreds of women subscribers who advertise for matches and issue and accept challenges and our own Ladies Corner has a long list of real, voice-verified women looking for matches.
There's no question that this is an outgrowth of the increasing confidence and independence that women feel and enjoy in a society changed dramatically by feminist thinking and movements. It's been accelerated by the development of female body-building, by the increasing interest in body toning and aerobics, the opening to women of all kinds of sports, and, of course, by changes in sexual mores.
It's fun. It's done. It's safe. And it IS natural no matter what people may tell you. If you're intrigued by it or actually want to do it, you must understand that you're not alone and that normal women, with jobs, kids, families and everything else we shoulder in this society, do it a lot and look for other with whom to do it.
Let me say something up front. There are some people who think it's strange or even sick for women to want to wrestle other women. There's a real simple answer: is it either sick or strange for men to wrestle? Some tell men who like to watch women wrestle that their interest is sick or strange. There's a simple answer: Why? But the more important issue is that this is not your problem because you're a woman and nobody on earth should be telling you should not try a harmless and fun and interesting activity because of your sex. :-)
Lots of women do straight wrestling as described above but there are many tangents to it, as diverse as people's imagination. Still, because I'm not writing a whole book here, I'll divide them into two general categories: catfighting and sexfighting.
Wrestling is fighting without blows: grappling with rules.
You've done it. Maybe it was some horsing around with a girlfriend or your sister or cousin when you were younger. Or maybe you've actually been in a fight or two (it does happen).
Wrestling is a natural reaction to being restrained.
Contrary to what many people think, women have wrestled and fought for as long as recorded history and we take up some of that herstory in the appropriate section of this site. I encourage you to take a look -- just for some historical background and to get a feeling that you're "not alone".
And you're not. Today, thousands of women in this country wrestle each other in private for recreation. Hundreds wrestle in tournaments and public match situations. And the number, in both scenarios, is growing. In fact, wrestling networks and directories have hundreds of women subscribers who advertise for matches and issue and accept challenges and our own Ladies Corner has a long list of real, voice-verified women looking for matches.
There's no question that this is an outgrowth of the increasing confidence and independence that women feel and enjoy in a society changed dramatically by feminist thinking and movements. It's been accelerated by the development of female body-building, by the increasing interest in body toning and aerobics, the opening to women of all kinds of sports, and, of course, by changes in sexual mores.
It's fun. It's done. It's safe. And it IS natural no matter what people may tell you. If you're intrigued by it or actually want to do it, you must understand that you're not alone and that normal women, with jobs, kids, families and everything else we shoulder in this society, do it a lot and look for other with whom to do it.
Let me say something up front. There are some people who think it's strange or even sick for women to want to wrestle other women. There's a real simple answer: is it either sick or strange for men to wrestle? Some tell men who like to watch women wrestle that their interest is sick or strange. There's a simple answer: Why? But the more important issue is that this is not your problem because you're a woman and nobody on earth should be telling you should not try a harmless and fun and interesting activity because of your sex. :-)
Lots of women do straight wrestling as described above but there are many tangents to it, as diverse as people's imagination. Still, because I'm not writing a whole book here, I'll divide them into two general categories: catfighting and sexfighting.
Posted 01-03-2006 22:56:51
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It's is a "tutorial" about how to actually go about wrestling other women: getting opponents, setting up matches, rules for various types of matches, conduct guidelines, doing scenes, security and safety precautions and even how a man can involve his mate in wrestling.
This "tutorial" comprised most of the original Combative Woman's Web Site when it was first launched about seven years ago. It is still the only primer of its kind on the Internet.
An important note here: while our site supports many forms of female combative activity (including organized sports), this tutorial is designed for the "recreational wrestler": a woman who does it only for fun, usually in the privacy of a home, in front of a select and usually small group of observers. It's a past-time, hobby or fun activity for her.
For the record, we coined the phrase "recreational wrestler" because, to be honest, there was no definition for what we do or niche for us. Okay? Now, before we start...
A frequent question:
Why would a woman wrestle another woman?
On its face, the question appears pregnant with sexism. I mean, hell, why would a man wrestle another man, right? But we know that answer is disingenuous. The sexism encased in the question affects all of us and, because we're exposed to that sexism from birth, we simply have to buy into some of it on some level.
We're taught to not fight, to not use our strength, not to compete physically or even to exert ourselves, to never sweat or grunt in public, to not expose our bodies against the bodies of other women.
We're taught that women who do that are crazy, or "low", or "perverted". Those aren't easy biases to confront and overcome for any woman. Girlfriend, put the cards on the table, it's not easy for most of us to fight.
Those who do it cite many reasons. Exercise or fun, their own needs (including sexual), or the needs of partners (often sexual). Usually, like so much in life, it's a combination of these and all of them, including the last, are very good reasons. There's nothing wrong with two women getting together to do what they want safely and enjoyably no matter the reason.
In fact, I think it's especially wonderful if your wrestling turns your mate on. A couple that shares common sexual interests and can meet each other's sexual needs is very lucky indeed.
But in the end, it's about you and what YOU want to do. Do NOTHING in this world than you don't want to do. And the moment it stops being fun, drop it...no matter what you think might be the impact on a relationship.
For most women, this means that you need to feel comfortable and safe and confident when you go into a match (particularly when you're first getting started).
This "tutorial" comprised most of the original Combative Woman's Web Site when it was first launched about seven years ago. It is still the only primer of its kind on the Internet.
An important note here: while our site supports many forms of female combative activity (including organized sports), this tutorial is designed for the "recreational wrestler": a woman who does it only for fun, usually in the privacy of a home, in front of a select and usually small group of observers. It's a past-time, hobby or fun activity for her.
For the record, we coined the phrase "recreational wrestler" because, to be honest, there was no definition for what we do or niche for us. Okay? Now, before we start...
A frequent question:
Why would a woman wrestle another woman?
On its face, the question appears pregnant with sexism. I mean, hell, why would a man wrestle another man, right? But we know that answer is disingenuous. The sexism encased in the question affects all of us and, because we're exposed to that sexism from birth, we simply have to buy into some of it on some level.
We're taught to not fight, to not use our strength, not to compete physically or even to exert ourselves, to never sweat or grunt in public, to not expose our bodies against the bodies of other women.
We're taught that women who do that are crazy, or "low", or "perverted". Those aren't easy biases to confront and overcome for any woman. Girlfriend, put the cards on the table, it's not easy for most of us to fight.
Those who do it cite many reasons. Exercise or fun, their own needs (including sexual), or the needs of partners (often sexual). Usually, like so much in life, it's a combination of these and all of them, including the last, are very good reasons. There's nothing wrong with two women getting together to do what they want safely and enjoyably no matter the reason.
In fact, I think it's especially wonderful if your wrestling turns your mate on. A couple that shares common sexual interests and can meet each other's sexual needs is very lucky indeed.
But in the end, it's about you and what YOU want to do. Do NOTHING in this world than you don't want to do. And the moment it stops being fun, drop it...no matter what you think might be the impact on a relationship.
For most women, this means that you need to feel comfortable and safe and confident when you go into a match (particularly when you're first getting started).
Posted 01-03-2006 22:56:18
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More often, the term cat fight is used for a physical altercation, between two women - cat fight.. It is stereotyped as involving slapping, scratching, hair-pulling, and sometimes biting as opposed to punching or kicking. It can also be used to describe two human females insulting one another verbally, or being unpleasant to one another. Many cat fights in cartoons, movies, and beer commercials end with at least one of the participants missing several articles of clothing. Cat fighting is also a popular subject amongst porn movies depicting multiple women in sexually suggestive and combative situations. In the 1970s, prurient interest in cat fighting lead to the popularity of several women in prison films.
Cat fighting has also recently been experiencing a boom in the form of payable entertainment. There are many different forms that now exist. Cat fighting media displays forms from the more recent extreme cat fight aspect, in which punching and kicking are included with the stereotypical array of woman fight tactics, such as scratching and the pulling of hair. Such stereotypical displays of anger are frequently demonstrated on the daytime television talk show The Jerry Springer Show. In more extreme variations such as in porn, face sitting is involved.
In the mediaThe subject of a cat fight was also once the focus of an episode of the popular TV sitcom Seinfeld, episode number 156, The Summer of George:
Elaine: Ok, why? Why do guys do this? What is so appealing to men about a cat fight?Kramer: Yeye cat fight!Jerry: Because men think if women are grabbing and clawing at each other there's a chance they might somehow kiss.
One of the highest profile cat fights on television has been Miller Lite's racy Cat fight commercials in 2002, which were derided by many as sexist. The careers of both actresses in the commercial, Kitana Baker and Tanya Ballinger, enjoyed a major boost. It is notable for the fighters losing some articles of clothing after a brawl. Another famous Cat fight was the brawl in the toilet between Queen Latifah and Missi Pyle in the movie Bringing down the house which ends with Queen Latifah dunking Missi Pyle's head in the toilet bowl. Another minor celebrity who acchieved 15 minutes of fame as a result of a cat fights is Danielle House, a former Miss Canada International (1996) who was convicted for assaulting her ex-boyfriend's girlfriend in a bar-room. After serving her sentence, House was named Playboy's Playmate of the Month for December, 1997. The Song "Girlfight" by Brooke Valentine is about a nasty cat fight between 2 girls.
The top story for late night talk shows on November 6, 2005 was two cheerleaders for the Carolina Panthers, Renee Thomas and Angela Keathley, charged with battery and disorderly conduct, respectively. Patrons in the bar's women's bathroom voiced their annoyance at how long the two were occupying a stall. A fracas ensued. The combination of cat fighting, cheerleaders, and allegations of lesbian activity made for a perfect storm of titillating media. Catfight-Facesitting has recently,become very popular in pornography.
Perhaps the most famous form of cat fighting are those depicted in BabesFight.com
Cat fighting has also recently been experiencing a boom in the form of payable entertainment. There are many different forms that now exist. Cat fighting media displays forms from the more recent extreme cat fight aspect, in which punching and kicking are included with the stereotypical array of woman fight tactics, such as scratching and the pulling of hair. Such stereotypical displays of anger are frequently demonstrated on the daytime television talk show The Jerry Springer Show. In more extreme variations such as in porn, face sitting is involved.
In the mediaThe subject of a cat fight was also once the focus of an episode of the popular TV sitcom Seinfeld, episode number 156, The Summer of George:
Elaine: Ok, why? Why do guys do this? What is so appealing to men about a cat fight?Kramer: Yeye cat fight!Jerry: Because men think if women are grabbing and clawing at each other there's a chance they might somehow kiss.
One of the highest profile cat fights on television has been Miller Lite's racy Cat fight commercials in 2002, which were derided by many as sexist. The careers of both actresses in the commercial, Kitana Baker and Tanya Ballinger, enjoyed a major boost. It is notable for the fighters losing some articles of clothing after a brawl. Another famous Cat fight was the brawl in the toilet between Queen Latifah and Missi Pyle in the movie Bringing down the house which ends with Queen Latifah dunking Missi Pyle's head in the toilet bowl. Another minor celebrity who acchieved 15 minutes of fame as a result of a cat fights is Danielle House, a former Miss Canada International (1996) who was convicted for assaulting her ex-boyfriend's girlfriend in a bar-room. After serving her sentence, House was named Playboy's Playmate of the Month for December, 1997. The Song "Girlfight" by Brooke Valentine is about a nasty cat fight between 2 girls.
The top story for late night talk shows on November 6, 2005 was two cheerleaders for the Carolina Panthers, Renee Thomas and Angela Keathley, charged with battery and disorderly conduct, respectively. Patrons in the bar's women's bathroom voiced their annoyance at how long the two were occupying a stall. A fracas ensued. The combination of cat fighting, cheerleaders, and allegations of lesbian activity made for a perfect storm of titillating media. Catfight-Facesitting has recently,become very popular in pornography.
Perhaps the most famous form of cat fighting are those depicted in BabesFight.com
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